A listener note, this episode contains adult language.

Matt, I'm excited because you seem excited.

And so I get happy when I see other people happy.

You feel it.

It feels like you're excited to tell me this story.

I am.

You're a real empath that you're picking that up from 3,000 miles away. But today is, it's juicy. So I hope you're strapped in and ready.

As I'll ever be. In 2018, Claire Boucher is very popular, but you may know her more as the musician Grimes.

She's got kind of a quirky look in this artsy stage persona, and it's often giving fantasy,

horror, sci-fi vibes. Like, you know this kind of girl, Sydney, right?

I can picture them at the back of the Homet class.

She has the wreck this journal open in front of her, and she's spilling ice coffee on it

and burning the edges with the lighter.

Like, we all know this girl, and Grimes is that girl all grown up, and now she's made it big.

She seems aware of a lot of social injustices, and she considers herself an anti-imperialist.

She puts it in her Twitter bio. That's how passionate she is. She also tells Rolling Stone that

it's common for male music producers to demand sex in exchange for finishing her songs.

Oh no. So she's really not afraid to call out the patriarchy, call out the powers that be, say what's

on her mind.

I love to see a Tumblr girly winning.

She's representing all of us who were nerds on the internet in the early 2010s.

But then it was time for the annual Metgala,

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