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This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative types

about what they do, how they got to be who they are and what they're thinking about.

On this podcast, Debbie Milman talks with Ice Shade Bursel about her expansive career as an industrial designer

and how she uses art and design to reconstruct one's

personal and professional life around a core idea. Your values are your

foundation. So how do you capture what your values are?

Here's Debbie Milma.

Can you deconstruct your life on just two pieces of paper?

Impossible, you say?

Designer and teacher, I-Shay Burcell wants all of us to tackle this project.

Her latest book, Design the Life You Love,

teaches people how they use the tools of design to make something better out of our messy

lives. Beyond her book, her design work can be found in the permanent collections of the Museum of Modern Art,

the Cooper Hewitt National Design Museum, and the Philadelphia Museum of Art.

Aiche Burcell, welcome to Design Matters.

Thank you very much. It's great to be here.

Last fall you read the book The Martian by Andy Weir and I understand that it made you want to be a scientist. Why is that?

Because I thought reading the Martian it was all about problem solving and very creatively and optimism and not giving up and those things are very close to my heart.

You know, I always come at it from the designer's point of view and I thought,

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