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Divided Argument

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Divided Argument

Will Baude & Dan Epps

Politics, Government, Justice, Legal, Supreme Court, News, Law

4.8766 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

We're back for another live show at the Northwestern Pritzker School of Law, hosted by the Northwestern Federalist Society! We discuss the term's two Second Amendment arguments -- first recapping the oral argument in Wolford v. Lopez, featuring Hawaii's law about getting consent to bear arms on private property; and then previewing the oral argument in United States v. Hemani, about the ban on possession of guns by drug users.

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0:00.0

Oh, yay. Oh, yay. Oh, yay.

0:03.4

The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court.

0:08.1

Unless there is any more question, to be able to find an argument in this case.

0:10.9

All persons having business before the Honorable, the Supreme Court of the United States, are admonished to give their attention.

0:20.2

Welcome to Divided Argument, an unscheduled, unpredictable Supreme Court podcast.

0:24.8

I'm Dan Epps.

0:25.8

And I'm Wellbode.

0:27.8

Dan, where are we?

0:28.6

We are live, one of our rare live shows, and we are in your home city of Chicago, where we are at Northwestern Law School being hosted by the

0:40.2

student chapter of the Federalist Society. We did one of these. Was it just last year?

0:45.9

It was. And we had a great time, and so we are doing a reprise. And, you know, the can't see

0:53.4

at home, but I'd say there's, you know, it's probably 90 to 95% of

0:57.5

the student body is represented in the audience. So we're very grateful. And the, the room mic is not

1:04.7

set up to capture the thunderous laughter and applause we just got. So you'll just have to take my

1:10.5

word for it. So, you know, often we just got. So you'll just have to take my word for it.

1:12.2

So, you know, often we like to record when we've just had a big drop of opinions.

1:18.8

We haven't had a big drop of opinions in the last couple days.

1:22.9

So instead, we're going to do another somewhat rare thing, which is an argument recap slash preview,

1:30.3

both cases involving second amendment rights, although with one of those cases, we can have a debate,

1:37.6

whether it's really a second amendment case or not.

1:41.1

The two cases...

1:42.0

I don't know if you remember this, Dan, but when we were here last year, I think we also did an argument preview

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