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The Psychology Podcast

Ayelet Fishbach || How to Motivate Yourself

The Psychology Podcast

iHeartPodcasts

Science, Social Sciences

4.4 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2022

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I talk to award-winning psychologist Ayelet Fishbach about the science of motivation. How do we motivate ourselves to do anything? From her extensive research, Ayelet shares with us four crucial strategies for successful behavior change: identify the right goals, avoid the “middle”, resist temptations, and seek social support. And equally important, she gives tips on how to sustain motivation for longer periods of time. We also touch on the topics of reinforcement, flow, deliberate practice, self-control, and Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. 

Bio

Dr. Ayelet Fishbach is the Jeffrey Breakenridge Keller Professor of Behavioral Science and Marketing at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, and the past president of the Society for the Study of Motivation and the International Social Cognition Network (ISCON). She is an expert on motivation and decision making and the author of Get it Done: Surprising Lessons from the Science of Motivation. Dr. Ayelet’s groundbreaking research on human motivation has won her several international awards, including the Society of Experimental Social Psychology’s Best Dissertation Award and Career Trajectory Award, and the Fulbright Educational Foundation Award.

Website: www.ayeletfishbach.com

Twitter: @ayeletfishbach

 

Topics

01:28 What is motivation science?

03:15 Maslow’s hierarchy of needs as motivation

07:07 Choosing the right goals 

12:42 Goals aren't chores

14:42 Quantify the goal-setting process 

17:40 The effect of incentives on motivation

20:41 Ayelet’s view on SMART Goals

22:53 Intrinsic and extrinsic motivation

27:26 Flow, deliberate practice, and discomfort 

30:58 Sustain motivation with feedback

34:21 Overcome the “middle problem”

38:00 Learn to balance multiple goals

43:17 Identify and resist temptation 

48:39 The glass half-empty mindset

51:50 How to learn from negative feedback

56:54 Do relationships affect our pursuit of goals?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

It's important to understand that there are many ingredients and there are many factors that influence motivation.

0:09.0

The idea that we can make a list and only watch on the list counts and everything that's on the list counts is, you know, it's a bit naive.

0:23.0

Hello, and welcome to the Psychology Podcast. In this episode, I talked to a award-winning psychologist Ayelet Fishbach about the exciting science of motivation.

0:37.0

How do we motivate ourselves to do anything? From her extensive research, Ayelet shares with us four crucial strategies for successful behavior change.

0:46.0

First, identify the right goals, second, avoid what she calls the middle, third, resist temptations, and fourth, seek social support.

0:56.0

And equally important, Ayelet gives tips on how to sustain motivation for longer periods of time.

1:02.0

We also touch on the topics of reinforcement, flow, deliberate practice, self-control, and, of course, Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

1:12.0

So that further ado, I bring you Ayelet Fishbach.

1:16.0

Nice to finally meet you. We have colleagues in Angel Duckworth and others that love you, and it's nice to finally meet you.

1:25.0

Thank you. Same here.

1:28.0

So you're a leader in the field of motivation science is what you refer to in the book.

1:33.0

You kind of tell our listeners a little bit about the, you know, kind of trace the history of the field of motivation science and who were some of the original key players in the field.

1:42.0

And yeah, let's start there, sort of tell people what motivation science is.

1:46.0

The study of motivation, as we can infer from the name, we look at what gets people out of bed in the morning and into achieving their goals, be it their professional goals, their health goals, their academic goals, how you motivate others, how you motivate yourself, which is specifically interesting for me.

2:13.0

And so on. We are interested in this internal power that we call motivation that gets people going.

2:23.0

You asked about people that are so many. So we briefly chat about our mutual friend, Angela Duckworth.

2:34.0

And, you know, I work with hair a lot there. They are just so many work with Katie Meldmann, my advisors, Jakob Chorpen, Rikoblanski did amazing work on motivation, people like Walter Michel and Toy Higgins.

3:01.0

They were such a long list. I will stop there because they just said so many people.

3:08.0

It's an exploding field. Yeah, it isn't explain field. Would you consider Abraham Maslow as part of the origin story of the field?

3:17.0

Well, yeah, yes. Well, you know, you can go all the way to quote Lewin and you know, people that inspired our thinking.

3:28.0

William James.

3:30.0

Yeah, right.

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