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The Art of Accomplishment

Awakening: Why We Waited 150 Episodes to Talk About It

The Art of Accomplishment

Brett Kistler

Management, Mental Health, Personal Development, Education, Self-improvement, Business, Health & Fitness

4.8269 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Awakening is one of those words that gets thrown around a lot, but what does it actually mean? In this episode, Brett and Joe finally tackle the topic head-on after 150 episodes of addressing it indirectly. They explore why awakening isn't a goal in the Art of Accomplishment work, what actually happens when people wake up, and why it might be both far bigger and far smaller than you imagine. They discuss: - What awakening actually is (and isn't) - Head, heart, and gut awakenings, and how they differ - Why making awakening a goal can slow down the process - The myth that awakening is a finish line - How meditation can be a path to enlightenment or a tool for dissociation - Why awakened people still have daddy issues - What to do if awakening catches you off guard

Transcript

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0:00.0

Awakening is an incredibly hard thing to define.

0:03.0

It isn't what you think it is.

0:05.0

If your mind can think of it, it isn't it.

0:07.0

Why haven't we talked about this directly in 150 episodes?

0:11.0

And why isn't it something that we talk about as, say, a goal?

0:16.0

When people wake up, it is like one line of evolution.

0:20.0

It's not all the lines of evolution.

0:23.2

And so it can actually get people quite stuck.

0:25.9

They've told themselves that this is a finish line.

0:28.6

And then they hit it and they think they're done, but they're not done.

0:32.1

Evolution doesn't stop.

0:32.9

It just keeps on going. I can't go.

0:52.4

I can't tell you how many times we've been running a course or even before I was running them with you when I was just a participant.

1:14.6

Somebody would have some big experience and you'd be like, oh yeah, I've seen that before. It's just, that's just a non-dual awakening. And then like no further context. And I'd be like, wait, wait, what? And then you wouldn't talk about it again. Yeah. What's going on? Yeah, it's a thing. It happens a lot in our work. It doesn't happen consistently and we don't make it a goal of the work. And I want to get to why that is.

1:16.6

Yeah, yeah.

1:17.6

First I want to back up a little bit because we just introduced a bunch of terminology that a

1:21.6

lot of people might not have.

1:23.6

So what is awakening?

1:24.6

Awakening is an incredibly hard thing to define, and especially because in our vocabulary,

1:30.6

there's a lot of ways people use the word awakening. Like some people describe it as a political

1:35.4

epiphany. Oh, I had an awakening, right? So I'm talking about the thing that the Buddhists would

1:41.6

call awakening or Christians would call Christ consciousness.

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