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We've got our good buddy, David Patrick Harry.

Church of the Eternal Logos joins me tonight to do this sponsored stream.

Shout out to our bro AC for this co-lab sponsored stream.

We're going to be getting into the philosophy and the thought of

professor john verveke and um a lot of this is very new to me so i've been diving into it this

week i have had a chance to get pretty deep into his podcasts and uh david sent me one of his

papers that he's recently written about non-being and

neoplatonism.

So we're going to talk about some of that.

We're also going to talk about how it relates to transhumanism.

And before we get all that, though, I want David to give us kind of his background story about how he thinks all of this became really popular in the last five, six, seven years.

Because I think his track of the events and how they occurred is a really good summation of how we got to this point of what Vervei calls the meaning crisis and how key

figures like you know Trump and and Jordan Peterson you know played a big role in that so

thank you for coming on David and tell us how you think this came to be so popular This is tied with the Jordan Peterson phenomenon, which is really inescapable when you start getting into these conversations about meaning and even masculinity. We see the rise of the manosphere. That was the last one we did,

was talking about the manosphere stuff. And so in 2016, especially, we can see this massive

transformation in what exactly is the counterculture with the Donald Trump phenomenon.

So 2015, he goes down the escalator. He's now running for president. And right

around that time, Jordan Peterson resist was a Bill C-16 in Canada that was demanding people talk

about pronouns and recognizing people's pronouns. This was going all over social media. And then I

think a few months later, he's

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