Hello and welcome to another episode of the ancient warfare podcast. My name is Jasper Warty. I'm the

editor of Ancient Warfare Magazine. And with me today are Mark McCaffrey, Mark DeSantis,

at Lindsay Powell and Murray Dom, who's the assistant editor and the one you hear every week on the

Ancient Warfare warfare answers podcast.

And we have an in-betweener, as we call them today, where we thought we talked about some of the biggest,

I'm not sure of myths, but one of those established ideas and see what we can, you know, come up with in how these things might work and what the evidence is.

And the one we decided upon was the Triplex Achaeus, the Kinkang's formation.

And perhaps to start us off, Mark suggested, we should look at where does it come from?

And then we can see where does it go?

Mark, the origins.

That's because you said we were going to throw the other bark under the bus.

I know.

This is revenge.

Yeah, absolutely.

Revenge, yeah, I know.

Where do we start?

Typically, if you open your average book on Roman armor and weaponry and tactics,

there is some reference to the Romans starting out with origins going back to Greek hoplight formations.

But actually, if you look at at a little bit more in depth,

actually probably the original weaponry and tactics

is going to take a lot more from the Etruscans possibly,

and that's where you get a lot of their early weaponry,

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