Hello and welcome to episode 281 of Avtalk. Im. Petchenick here as always with

Jason Rabinowitz and here occasionally sometimes once again

with Steve Giordano. Welcome back.

Hey guys, happy to be back. Steve, thank you so much for joining us. We're going to spend, I think pretty much, the entire episode today on the crash of the Volpa A.R. 72 and we invited Steve on the show.

Steve, for those that don't know, I think deserves a bit of an introduction and

for those that have listened to the show before know who Steve is.

But Steve has more typewritings on more aircraft than nearly anyone on the face of the planet.

He is co-founder and co-owner of Nomadic Aviation Group, which is a group of airplane people who move airplanes where they need to be and when they need to be there is I

think the most general explanation I can give but Steve has flown many many different types of aircraft, but the reason we ask Steve to come on is really Steve has a, I don't want to say unique, but unusual ability to describe and explain aviation terms in a way that a general audience

can understand and certainly in a way that Jason I I can understand and we are not the brightest bulbs in the box.

So Steve, thanks so much once again for joining us.

One of these days we're going to have to have you back to talk about other things besides accidents

and incidents. Absolutely I mean you guys first of all you're doing yourself with

disservice your very bright bulbs. Oh thank you. I would say that you're

you're very bright bulbs.

And I always enjoy a conversation with you guys.

And yes, let's talk about happy things sometime, but I think it is very important that we discuss

these things when terrible things happen as well because in this media

environment that we live in a lot of false information runs rampant and let's be honest

I mean these especially this particular incident which you know as soon as I saw the video and I saw how clear and obvious and frightening the video looked of that ATR falling from the sky. I mean there is just there's no

looking at that and having any sense of comfort about flying whatsoever and

Turbo props historically get a bad rat people are more afraid of

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