Hello and welcome to episode 193 of Avtoc. I am Ian Petchenic here as always with...

Jason Erebenowitz. Hello, Ian, how are you?

Hello Jason. It's been a very long time since we've spoken. About 14 hours now is it? I can't count. But sure, we'll say that. So we had breakfast together. We were talking about this before we hit record and then it got a little more

philosophical than I had assumed it would and or metaphysical perhaps and so I said

okay stop the conversation we need to hit record. So here we are, and we had breakfast together in Stockholm. I'm still in Stockholm. I am decidedly not in Stockholm. You are not in Stockholm. No.

And we were talking, it's five after 10 in the evening in Stockholm,

minus six, so it's what?

405 and 45 seconds p.m. in New York. Thank you, sir. But, but, but, your day, even though we have been up for roughly

saying we both got up about 7 a.m. Central European standard time this morning.

Your day has been much longer.

I am exhausted and I haven't done anything today.

The time that you have experienced, and this is what we're talking about before we hit recorded, is the

time you experience traveling, the act of traveling even though the hours are the same and granted

Jason's day will end up in fact being longer than mine because he'll stay up to

whenever he stays up and then he'll go to bed and I will have long since gone to bed, hopefully.

But the experience of traveling is one that you experience more time than you have actually been awake for,

completed in your day. I don't know how to describe it. But it was one of those things where I was like, yeah, you've had a much longer day than I have already, and we've been up for the same exact amount of time.

Yeah, and I feel exhausted, but I mean, I didn't do much of anything today. I took a very nice train to a very nice airport to a pretty okay airline lounge and I boarded a pretty okay airline cabin and sat for 10 hours and watched a couple movies and I watched a couple

TV shows. Then I breezed through customs, you don't even have to take your passport out in the

U.S. anymore if you have global entry, which is wild a bus then I got on a train and then I got on another train and now I'm home drinking a beer. I'm exhausted but we've been up the same amount of time but I guess I do have that whole jet lag thing going on.

It was an A330 today on SAS, so the cabin pressure and humidity thing that the A3.50 brings to the table is not present on the A330.

So I do feel just physically tired from this day of doing practically nothing.

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