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All right, Steve Kopshaw, all the way from New Jersey where I'm from.

That's an automatic bond right there isn't it?

You know if you can go into and ask somebody what exit from you from and what exit

are you from and they actually get the joke that's the best way to start off a relationship.

Yeah, which exit were you?

I'm all the way up north, 167 in Bergen County.

Damn, it's deep.

I was Somerset County.

Okay, yeah, I'm maybe 10 minutes away from New York State border.

So pretty close.

Yeah, that's about as north as you can get, man.

Exactly.

You've been there your whole life?

Yeah, pretty much born and raised, a couple of years outside of their parents divorced

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