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On Being with Krista Tippett

Avivah Zornberg — The Genesis of Desire

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Sociology, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Arts, Culture, On Being, Society, Society & Culture, Science, Social Sciences

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2011

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

What may one of the great literary teachers of Torah and midrash — the Jewish tradition of reading between the lines of the Bible to uncover hidden layers of meaning — teach us about our own human longings? Hear what happens when she takes on Noah and the Flood, and Adam and Eve in the garden.

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Years ago, I gained a whole new understanding of the Exodus story with the celebrated Torah

0:05.3

teacher of Yves Ornberg, and it was a thrill to sit down with her this year in her living

0:10.3

room in Jerusalem.

0:11.9

She doesn't so much teach the Bible as inhabited.

0:15.3

She participates in the ancient Jewish tradition of Midrash, of reading between the lines of

0:20.5

sacred texts to uncover deeper, hidden layers of meaning, and she creates an experience

0:26.2

of these depths intellectually, spiritually, sensually for modern people.

0:32.1

The whole tenor of the language is about human life, and God has to find his place,

0:38.7

and that's why he commands the building of the Tabernacle later on.

0:42.2

That is, in some sense, God dwells in this world, and it seemed to me that the human

0:46.9

language that God is obliged to use is actually that that's the house he lives in.

0:52.9

He's willing to accept a kind of lower dwelling place because of what can happen.

0:59.4

From APM, American Public Media, I'm Krista Tippett, today on Being the Genesis of Desire.

1:12.7

Aviva Gottlieb Zornberg grew up in Scotland, but has lived in Israel for the past 40 years.

1:18.4

She is wise about modern literature and psychology.

1:21.8

The daughter and granddaughter of rabbis of East European lineage, she's also steeped

1:26.4

in the Jewish mystical tradition of Kabbalah and its pivotal text, The Zohar.

1:31.6

She connects deep and unexpected currents between the Bible and the lived situation of

1:36.8

the reader.

1:38.0

So for example, the character of Noah in Genesis.

1:41.4

On the surface of this story, God sees a world that has become corrupt and violent,

1:46.6

and resolves to flood and destroy it.

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