This is Lou Elizondo and you are listening to that

UFO podcast.

Hi everyone and welcome back to that U podcast my name is Andy and following on from

his incredibly successful first book a New York Times bestseller extra terrestrial my

guest is now releasing his eagerly awaited follow-up.

Interstellar, the search for extraterrestrial life and our future in the Stars, where he examines

the next steps, revealing how humanity must reset its cultural understanding

and expectation of what it means to have contact with interstellar extraterrestrial civilizations.

I'd like to welcome back to the podcast Professor Avi Loeb.

It's my pleasure Andy, good to be with you.

It's good to have you on, Avi, lots to talk about and not a lot of time to do it,

so let's get straight into the conversation.

Your book I wonder how quickly after you wrote extraterrestrial did the idea for

Interstellar come about? Oh it was about a year later because as a result of exotourrestrial, I decided to have an action

plan to promote the cause that I'm interested in, which is a scientific exploration of the

question of whether we have any technological gadget near Earth that came from another civilization.

And of course there were hint for that.

And for example, in the context of Muamuah,

the first object reported from outside the solar system

that was roughly the size of the football field, was flat in its shape and was pushed away from the sun by some mysterious force without showing evaporation, no cometerytary tail.

So it didn't look like a comet, didn't look like an asteroid. I was

intrigued by that and then a year and a half later I was also made aware of a

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