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Now & Then

Avatars of Democracy: Zelensky & More

Now & Then

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Society & Culture, History, News Commentary

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has become a symbol of democracy around the world. What does this mean for the United States? This week, Heather and Joanne look at past foreign and international figures who’ve fought fervently for democratic values and have compelled and challenged Americans.  Heather and Joanne discuss how Zelensky’s current battle against Russia evokes the quests of the French-born Revolutionary War hero Lafayette, the Latin American liberator Simón Bolívar, and South African political prisoner and president Nelson Mandela.  Join CAFE Insider to listen to “Backstage,” where Heather and Joanne chat each week about the anecdotes and ideas that formed the episode. Head to: cafe.com/history Attend the Stay Tuned with Preet in-person live event with special guests Ben Stiller and Garry Kasparov on March 31: cafe.com/events For more historical analysis of current events, sign up for the free weekly CAFE Brief newsletter, featuring Time Machine, a weekly article that dives into an historical event inspired by each episode of Now & Then: cafe.com/brief For references & supplemental materials, head to: cafe.com/now-and-then/avatars-of-democracy-zelensky-more Now & Then is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:06.8

I'm Heather Cox Richardson.

1:08.6

And I'm Joanne Freeman.

1:10.4

Today we're going to talk about a subject which in a sense won't be a surprise by any means

1:15.8

because we've all in the United States and around the world been watching what's been

1:20.9

happening in Ukraine over the course of the last week.

1:25.3

We've seen Russia invade Ukraine.

1:27.4

We are watching strangely enough on a daily as it happens basis, thanks to technology,

1:34.4

what's happening there.

1:36.2

And I think many of us have very strong emotions about what's happening there.

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