It's so kicking as a matter of fact, I took the foot massager out of this or my office because you were so mad about what it did to the audio

Don't say I never do anything

What a sacrifice you've made for this part. Yes, so

So Ellie we have a lot to get to here on this podcast and as we referenced in the last podcast

We need to get these things out quickly because lots of things change. This is not one of those off seasons where there's a long stretch in between activity

I mean normally at this time of the season. There's not a whole lot going on

But this season is very much different as we all know

We'll start with the very latest and it involves a Colorado avalanche and the New Jersey Devils

It is Ryan Graves a defenseman off to New Jersey

Michele Maltsev and a second-round pick going back the other way so Colorado

Essentially avoids losing Ryan Graves to the Seattle Kraken and we should also at some point you're talking about New Jersey Devils in there

Enormous amount of cap space which could even get bigger

More on that in a moment, but your thoughts on the deal Graves Maltsev second-round pick

Very similar to the Arvetson deal between Nashville and the Kings quite simply

Just like the Predators saw they were gonna lose Arvetson for nothing

Avalanche clearly saw they were gonna lose Graves for nothing and said you know what we might as well take advantage of this

New Jersey situation is kind of interesting if you look at the past couple of years

It seems as if every off season they add another defenseman a couple of years ago. It was P.K. Suban last year. It was

Ryan Murray

They've had holes back there and they've really tried to fill it through trade

Graves I think is a really interesting player. He's more of a I would say a defensive defenseman

He's not a big-time puck carrier and Colorado. They had lots of those guys

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