From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment, I'm Elvis Mitchell.

It's nice to have a guest who's got now three films under her belt as director.

Her first, of course, is I Will Follow. Her second when she was here was middle of nowhere,

and now she is back with the epic film, a budget bigger than both of the other two films combined, the film.

Ava DuVernay. Thank you so much for being back.

Thank you. I was happy to be here.

The budget of both of my two films combined times 12.

Go ahead. Bring math into it. It's math. We must do the math sometimes. Oh, it's public radio. We have to give people a I know you've been asked that question enough in the last six weeks.

I think I've been asking myself a couple of times.

What is Selma about?

Yes.

No one's actually asked me that.

Well, my gosh.

What is the movie Selma about Ava DeVorene?

Someone's about the power of voice, I think.

Okay. Technically, it's about the three months of the voting rights campaign from January to March

1965, led by Dr. King and the SCLC and SNCC, but it's really about a rag-tag group

of radicals who got together and amplified their voice for change.

And in doing so, they really changed the country.

They changed the way that we do things.

And so, yeah, it's, I haven't been asked that.

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