Hi, I'm Kim Masters. Thanks for listening to the business podcast. You know, KCRW produces another podcast

that you might want to check out. My frequent banter buddy, Michael Schneider, hosts it. It's called the

spin-off. It's about television, industry insights and trends and shows that we watch or shows that we

don't. Find the spinoff on KCRW's iTunes page.

From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

Most of the men on my crew had not worked with a woman director.

And if they'd work with a woman director, she wasn't black.

I thought it was important just to make it very clear what I expected and what I intended to have happen.

Before she started filming Selma, director Ava DuVernay laid down the law.

She tells us about her clear vision for the film and how she made it without cooperation from Martin Luther King's family,

which precluded her from using any of his legendary speeches.

But first, on the news banter,

the semi-annual gathering of television critics is dominated so far by talk of cutting the cord.

Stay tuned, it's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my buddy in banter, Michael Schneider of TV Guide magazine. Hello, Michael.

Hello, Kim. So I'm just going to give a nod to the Golden Globes. They are going to happen after we're taping. And as you know, it's a little group of somewhat dubiously credentials foreign journalists. Some would say a nod is more than enough.

Credence you need to give to the Golden Globes.

But, you know, the thing about the Globes is they've turned into this gigantic deal.

I mean, I remember a few years ago they were goofy, they were fun, nobody really cared.

And now you have to go, you have to show up, you have to play nicely, because if you look ungracious,

it could really bite you.

Yeah, and what's interesting now is everyone has seen what the Dick Clark Productions and

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