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This is Love

Ava and the Pickpocket

This is Love

Vox Media Podcast Network

Personal Journals, Society & Culture

4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 November 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

“He stole my watch. He stole my jewelry. I stopped wearing jewelry – just to see what else he would steal.” In 2004, Ava Do met a professional pickpocket at a bachelorette party in Las Vegas. And they fell in love. Say hello on ⁠Facebook⁠ and ⁠Instagram⁠. Follow the show and review us on ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠. Want to listen to This is Love ad-free? Sign up for Criminal Plus – you’ll get to listen to This is Love, Criminal, and Phoebe Reads a Mystery without any ads. Plus, you’ll get behind-the-scenes bonus episodes of Criminal and other exclusive benefits. ⁠Learn more and sign up here⁠. We also make ⁠Criminal⁠ and ⁠Phoebe Reads a Mystery⁠. Artwork by ⁠Julienne Alexander⁠. Check out ⁠our online shop⁠. Episode transcripts are posted on ⁠our website⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Phoebe.

0:04.0

This episode today is one we originally made for our other show, Criminal.

0:08.4

It's one of those stories that sometimes come along

0:10.8

that we're not sure whether to make for this is love or criminal,

0:14.2

because it has a little bit of both in it.

0:17.0

So we wanted to share it with you.

0:19.4

We hope you like it.

0:22.9

What was the first magic you learned?

0:26.8

Probably how to tell someone's credit card number without seeing it.

0:32.3

Wait a second. So you could right now tell me my credit card number.

0:36.3

Well, not on radio.

0:38.3

That would be legal.

0:42.3

But you could... Yes.

0:44.4

This is Ava Doe.

0:46.0

For a while in her 20s, she was a pickpocket.

0:50.0

I had stolen a guy's watch on the Vegas strip.

0:55.0

And it was a good three, four minutes after I had stolen it.

1:01.0

And he realized that his watch was missing.

1:04.0

And he was shocked.

1:07.0

So you were practicing on the Las Vegas strip?

1:12.7

Sometimes, but not all the time.

1:14.7

It's very dangerous to do so I wouldn't recommend it.

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