Hey, it's Anna. The episode today is a conversation I had a few years ago with a

listener named Diane Gil Morris, a mom who told me about the challenges of raising

her two sons who have autism. We're bringing you this episode again

because tomorrow you'll see a new episode with Diane in your podcast feed. I

checked back in with her recently to hear how things have been for their families since we last spoke.

Here is the original show with Diane from 2015.

I mean I certainly kind of consider myself to be the go-to person for if you really want to have a

conversation about what having kids is like, you know, and maybe want somebody to talk

you out of it. Come to Diane.

This is death, sex, and money.

That's probably why they invented TV, so people could have sex.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot.

They both screw people for money.

And need to talk about more.

Why don't you have to die?

I'm Anna Sale. I first met Diane Gil Morris on the death sex and money Facebook page. We'd post an article

about people thinking about having kids and I

and I commented, we have two teenage boys with autism. I love them deeply but

she wrote if someone had told me that this is what it'd be like, I never would have had kids.

We reached out to Diane in North Carolina, where she lives outside Raleigh.

I just feel like we live in a society where, especially you know now, with Facebook and everybody will post these great beautiful pictures of their kids and talk about all their great successes and how wonderful things are.

And I feel like sometimes it would benefit people to understand that you go into kids

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