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Learn more at NEI Academy.org. From its embrace of dubious research about autism, its skepticism

over vaccines, and its wholesale rejection of the consensus about climate change, the Trump

administration continues to raise alarm within the scientific community.

Our William Brangham spoke with two prominent researchers about their new book,

chronicling what they argue is a concerted war on science.

In their new book, our guests argue that we are living through a, quote,

anti-science superstorm where a concerted group of global actors, billionaires,

leaders of nation-states, and credentialed experts, work to confuse and mislead the public about

basic scientific principles, particularly around the twin crises of climate change and pandemic

threats. Their book is called Science Under Siege, and its authors are familiar

to news hour viewers. Dr. Peter Hotez is the dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine

and Professor of Virology and Microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine. And Michael Mann

is presidential distinguished professor in the Department of Earth and Environmental

Science at the University of Pennsylvania.

Gentlemen, so nice to have you both here in person at the NewsHour.

I want to ask you both in this book, you detail this, that, I mean, as far back as Galileo,

there have been attacks on scientists and scientific

understanding. Both of you, even with that knowledge, describe how you came into these,

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