Hello and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm Deb Bowen, your host for tonight. My lovely

co-host Samantha is away this evening and I am honored and delighted to have guest with

me on the show tonight. As you all know, if you're a regular listener to this show, it's

very rare that we have guest and these two folks are people that are really wanted to

introduce you to and I'll talk more about Kathy and Wayne in just a few minutes. Just

also if you are a regular listener to the show, you know that we typically have a crystal

of the week, a meditation of the week, and an animal of the week and I am going to suspend

all of those tonight so that we have plenty of time to talk with Kathy and Wayne, my guest

for this evening. Also one quick thing and I'll remind you of this again at the halfway

point. Samantha and I did a show this past week during the day, which of course you know

is not our regular time, but it's up on iTunes and on blog talk. It's a show on the high

priestess that's a makeup show for the show that we all got cut off with that crazy blog

talk stuff last month. So we have re-recorded that show for everybody so you can find that.

So thank you all so very much for joining me tonight. We're just so happy that you are

here. It is my privilege to introduce to you, Kathleen, Kathy Raymond and Wayne Gabbari

who are authors of a wonderful book called The Healers. If you'll remember a couple of

months ago, my lovely friend Sherry Perbek was a guest on the show and Wayne and Kathy

are friends of Sherry's and then Sherry introduced me to them and I'm just delighted to have

them with me. So hi guys. Hi, how are you? Happy to be here. Great, thank you all.

Thank you very much for having us on the show. Oh, it's my pleasure. Thank you also very

much for being with me. So let's tell folks a little bit about who you are and how you

got involved in doing healing work and what that really is all about. So who wants to

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