It is August for Rule Breaker investing, which means it's authors in August for my fellow Rule Breaker

listeners. Last week we talked about game design with Jesse Shell. This week we go to a topic of just as much interest for me,

but with a lot more ink about it,

and that would be leadership.

You know, leadership. The word gets tossed around in infinite contexts every day by people who may or may not even be using the same definition as the person they're speaking to in his essay politics and the English

language George Orwell wrote that meaningless words quote do not point to any

discoverable object but are hardly even expected to do so by the reader.

I leave it to you, dear listener, to determine whether leadership has become a meaningless word today.

If it is one such example, well, we're going to rein that in this week.

We're going to be really specific.

My guest, Les McHugh, and author of the book Do Lead, has an incredibly prosaic and powerful definition

which drives his book and all of his thinking and frankly now mine too and I hope it'll be helpful for you and

your thinking about a topic that is both so threadbare on the one hand but also so important. Only on this week's

rule-breaker investing.

It's the rule-breaker investing podcast with Motley Full Co-founder David Gardner.

Welcome back to Rule Breaker Investing.

Thanks so much for joining in with me and my pal Les McHugh

and I'm really delighted to share Les with you.

Les is a long time business, thinker, actor, and author

and somebody who's been in and around the Motley Fool giving us some good advice for the better part of

for really more than a decade right now so I'm so excited to share with you

Les McEwen and his book do lead. We're going to get into that in a

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