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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Author Jennifer Egan: Writing Through Time

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Higher Ground

Tv & Film, Film Interviews, Society & Culture

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Pulitzer Prize-winning author Jennifer Egan (“A Visit from the Goon Squad”) joins us this week. She describes the structural pulse of her new novel (4:00), why she’s drawn to nonlinear storytelling (6:33), and what “The Candy House” reveals about authenticity (7:40) in the digital age (14:26). Then, we revisit a formative trip to Europe (21:21) that inspired her to write (26:30) and move to New York, where she worked as a secretary to a countess (32:16) and rediscovered her creative voice (34:12).

On the back-half, Jennifer reflects on her late brother Graham (36:57), his courageous battle with schizophrenia (38:30), and his lasting presence in her work (40:13). We also discuss the role of luck (50:02), the value of pushing past boundaries (52:00), and how she continued to write in the face of loss (55:57). To close, she reads a healing passage from “Manhattan Beach” (57:22).

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0:00.0

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0:04.0

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0:08.0

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0:16.0

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0:21.9

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0:27.0

Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm Sam Fregoso Egan won the Pulitzer Prize in 2011 for her novel A Visit

1:16.4

from the Goon Squad. If you haven't read it, it contains 13 distinct but interconnected

1:22.2

stories which are tied together like a Robert Altman film.

1:26.6

Her latest is a kind of sibling novel to that book called The Candy House.

1:32.1

It's now available to your unconscious.

1:44.4

In the novel, this new fangled technology

1:47.3

allows one to access every memory they've ever had,

1:50.7

with the potential of gaining access to the memories of others.

1:55.0

As you'll hear, Egan and I unpacked this concept early on in our talk.

2:00.0

But we also expand the conversation with Egan's own memories, oscillating between her work on the page and her life outside of it.

2:10.0

As she says in this episode,

2:12.0

chronology is not an organizing principle of this new book.

2:16.4

And so, in keeping with the spirit of her writing, neither is this podcast.

2:21.6

Instead, we unpack her relationship to time,

2:25.3

to her younger self, to her early work,

2:28.5

and to her late brother, Graham,

2:31.2

for whom I must offer a warning.

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