This is the labor.

So typically, when I hang out with this guy, we do, and either I'm interviewing him or

he's interviewing me, we're giving each other a game, we're trying to help other people

elevate, level up, learn things that they may not know through our vast experiences and

the things that we've been through.

But today, it's not going to be an interview, we're going to have a conversation about life

because I notice from my son to other young people that they kind of learn more when they're

just exposed or they see things happen.

Rather than you telling them what to do, they kind of learn by watching what to do from

your mistakes or from your wins.

So instead of you and I sitting here together saying, well here's what you're not going

to do.

Let me be David Meltzer, ready?

You need to collaborate, agitate, and constipate.

He's always got these like three words, like what they call me, the thought leading rapper,

like Tim's story is always like, you come up with these three lines.

Persistence, consistency, resistance, and then you're going to bring it back to your

soul in your mind.

And so anyway, so we're going to talk about my good friend, David Meltzer today, David

Meltzer.

Clint and Sparks.

Yes.

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