This episode has got just the tiniest bit of salty language, but it's in an Australian accent, so we allowed it.

Emily Adkin would love to write a hopeful climate change story. Her old editors that always ask for that.

But in the end, these kinds of stories always bummed her out.

Every time I read a positive climate story, it's just some wacko business,

like some 23-year-old guy being like, I built a machine to take all the trash out of the ocean.

And you're like, oh, did you?

Poor guy. He's just trying to get the trash. Emily doesn't have to write stories like this anymore. She left her staff job at New

Republic last year to start a newsletter about climate change. It's called Heeded. That's how she made

this decision. The feel-good's how she made this decision.

The feel-good climate story she wants to tell.

It happens in the future.

I was listening to something the other day about how the reason the civil rights movement started to pick up steam was not just because everyone was talking about how screwed up things were,

but because, you know, Martin Luther King started visualizing, you know, his dream for the future and what the future looked like.

That's what I think of when I think of a positive climate change story.

I can't wait until we're teaching not only the science of climate change but the history of climate change in schools and you know we're learning

about how we overcame these things and we're biking everywhere and eating like lots of vegetables

and the air is clean and there's all this renewable energy. It's just like, it sounds cool.

It sounds nice, you know?

Emily wants you to hear the words climate change and picture possibilities.

She knows that when you think about climate change now, you're probably thinking about all the potential that's been lost.

Like when you hear about those bushfires in Australia.

Authorities are urging people living in areas that are under threat to leave or risk becoming trapped.

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