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WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

Auschwitz: The Cost Of Cruelty (Part 2)

WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

Goalhanger Podcasts

Society & Culture, History, Education

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

How did a small Polish town on the outskirts of civilisation become the epicentre of the Holocaust? Al Murray and James Holland tell the story of the Final Solution, through the history of Auschwitz-Birkenau. In the second episode, we explore the perverse connection between capitalism and Nazi cruelty. As Operation Barbarossa continues to falter, the Final Solution evolves into its most horrifying form. **This episode contains content that may upset some listeners.** A Goalhanger Production Produced by James Regan Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Social: @WeHaveWaysPod Email: [email protected] Join our ‘Independent Company’ to watch our livestreams, get earlybird tickets and our weekly newsletter - packed with deals. Membership Club: patreon.com/wehaveways Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:52.5

This episode explores topics that some may find disturbing.

0:58.1

Listener discretion is advised.

1:17.2

Historians have long argued that the Holocaust highlights a sharp contradiction at the heart of Nazism.

1:20.8

Despite the desperate need for forced labour to feed the German war machine,

1:25.5

the regime still went ahead with the mass extermination of European Jewry.

1:29.0

But for the Nazi hardliners, there was no contradiction.

1:35.6

Economics and extermination were two sides of the same coin. Both were needed for victory.

1:42.3

Winning the war required the ruthless destruction of all the perceived threats and the mobilization of all remaining resources for the war effort.

1:45.5

In the case of Jews judged capable of work, the authorities fused both these aims into

1:50.7

the policy of annihilation through labour. Forced labour meant temporary survival for the selected

1:57.2

Jews, but almost all of them were dead men and women walking as far as the

2:02.4

SS were concerned.

2:04.6

And that's also a clip from Nicholas Vacman's magnificent K.L., a history of the Nazi

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