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Young Heretics

Augustus to Virgil: Are you Mad at Me? 🥺

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Society & Culture, Education

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 August 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

It's time we finally talked about the elephant in the room: does Virgil actually like Augustus? Or is he just pretending? This doesn't seem to have been much of a question in the ancient world--the commentator Servius wrote quite bluntly that "Virgil's intention was to imitate Homer and praise Augustus." But in the wake of the two world wars, scholars in the Anglosphere started to wonder whether there might not be a hint of menace behind Virgil's apparently rosy picture of imperial Rome. This week on Young Heretics: the definitive take on all this, plus recommendations for the best translation of the Odyssey.

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Scholars have unearthed a thrilling new inscription from Augustin Rome.

0:05.0

They were digging in the forum when they came across a block of stone, a monument inscribed

0:11.0

apparently by the Emperor Augustus' own hand.

0:14.0

And now that the epigraphists have gotten a chance to decipher it, the translation seems to be something like this. Virgil,

0:22.8

are you mad at me?

0:32.7

Okay, that's not a thing. Just want to be very clear. There has not been an inscription

0:36.6

unearthed from the Emperor Augustus asking Virgil

0:39.3

if he's mad.

0:41.0

I don't know if you've ever seen the meme where it's Alice in Wonderland and the mad hatter

0:46.0

says, we are all mad here.

0:48.0

And Alice says, at me?

0:50.9

For some reason I always loved that meme.

0:52.9

And I kind of imagine Augustus saying this to Virgil

0:56.3

if he were alive today.

0:58.1

And that's an important point, because this question that we are going to address today about

1:03.4

whether Virgil is mad at Augustus is in many ways a thoroughly modern question.

1:09.9

But it's when we have to address, and we haven't really

1:12.1

talked about it in this whole Aeneid series,

1:15.0

because I've been getting us oriented in the poem

1:17.2

and trying to really dig into the ancient concerns of the poem.

1:20.8

But now, at the end of book six, the climax

1:23.7

of this incredible journey through the underworld

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