So it's like torture when you actually have to do something because no one else is doing anything.

Yeah, but you're not doing it. You're here with me. You're here with John. I mean, this should be... It's heavy lifting. No, but this is like... With you two all batrosses. What are you talking about? I got... I'm a fresh face, a fresh voice. Your fresh kid... You're a fresh kid to the scene. that Roach was going to be on today and he's got TV.

It's certainly me coming in on a Monday.

It certainly changed. Kid to the scene. Roach was going to be on today, and he's got TV. It's certainly, me coming in on a Monday, it certainly changes the tone of the show. There's no doubt about it. Well, I'll tell you this. You were telling me off the air that you saw Smash Mouth, who is into it with Jared Carrabis right now. Yes, I've seen him once, and it was a phenomenal experience. At a chili cookoff, if you could do with it. So it was a phenomenal, phenomenal experience.

At a chili cookoff, if you could do with it.

So it was a legitimate chili cookoff?

Yeah, DC, we figured I was 101.

DC 101.

Yeah, big alternative.

They have a chili cookoff.

But, you know, I had all these, that era with all those, the Everclear was there,

Smashout, a few other bands.

But even then, like Smash Mouth, the feedback from the fans, brutal, like had no respect for Harrell in that group. Now, is that the name of the lead singer? Yeah. Look at you pulling out the lead singer of Smash Mouth just like that. Hey. I'm an all-star. All I remember, it was right at the end of their heyday, the lead singer.

What's his name again?

Harwell, Steve Atso Magoo. So Magoo did an episode of Cribs. Did you ever see that? No. They went to his house in Vegas and he showed him around. You know what, though? That year or though? Maybe 10 minutes, but they stretched it to 30 with creative energy.

The chances that he still owns that home are about zero.

Probably slim, though, but isn't that the best ear to be like any sort of musician? Because like, when did like CDs come out? Like, isn't like the end of the 80s into the mid-90s, like those guys made the most money? Right, because people actually... You didn't have the streaming service yet. Yeah, people actually could sell records. So, like, those guys made the most money because they used to make them. Because people actually...

You didn't have the streaming service yet.

Yeah, people actually could sell records. So, like, you can have a real ask how on, like, Harlan's Smashout, and they make Buku Bucks. All I know is that I was, we used to have a festival called Big Day Out at my radio station, and I interviewed the Chad Kroger from Nickelback

and as he was riding away in a golf cart

he started to become so infuriated that he kept searching for me to kick my ass. The lead guy, now he's the lead guy, so he didn't know his name from Nickelback. You don't know the Kroeg? I do not know. I know his face. Oh, yeah. Now, I mean, smash mouth is pretty bad.

I was telling you, so I was at the show, and, like, he's hammered up on the stage, and you can kind of tell him. Maybe that's why the crowd kind of got pissy with him, but he's climbing up the side. He didn't have those girders where they put things. And he was acting like he was going to jump. and generally if you have like a really good musician that you love, they're like, yeah.

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