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The Playbook Podcast

August 4, 2025: The mess with Texas

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

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🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Today, you can find Texas’ Democratic state legislators in Illinois, New York and Massachusetts. Where you won’t find many of them is Texas. That’s because they fled the state yesterday in an attempt to deny Republicans the quorum needed to enact a new partisan gerrymander ahead of the 2026 elections. The implications extend far beyond the Red River, with resonances for the balance of power in Congress, Democratic jockeying for 2028 and the potential weaponization of government depending just how far Gov. Greg Abbott and President Donald Trump are willing to go in response. Playbook’s Adam Wren and POLITICO White House reporter Jake Traylor unpack what it means and what to expect down the line.

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Adam Wren.

0:07.0

And I'm Jake Trailer. It's Monday, August 4th.

0:09.7

And this is the Playbook podcast. This morning, I have the pleasure of welcoming Politico

0:14.6

White House reporter Jake Trailer back to the show. Jake, thanks for joining us.

0:19.4

Yeah, of course. Happy to be here, Adam.

0:21.1

Without further ado, here's what's driving the day. First up, everything's bigger in Texas,

0:26.2

including it turns out, the size and scope of the Democratic revolt. Yesterday, dozens of

0:32.5

Democratic state legislators fled the Lone Star State in an attempt to deny the quorum that Republicans need

0:38.9

in order to pass a new partisan gerrymander ahead of 26 elections. Today, you can find them in,

0:45.6

among other places, Illinois, New York, and Massachusetts. So essentially, late last night,

0:52.5

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker finished up a press conference

0:55.9

with Texas Democrats who were in DePage County, Illinois, the suburban part of Chicago.

1:01.7

And essentially, he appeared in front of a campaign banner that said J.B. Pritzker.com

1:07.1

appeared to want to make it very clear that he is the 2028 hopeful who's shielding Texas

1:13.8

Democrats from Donald Trump in case he didn't pick that up here on the subtext. And essentially,

1:19.2

he is helping them get shelter, get housing. Of course, his family is of the billionaire family

1:26.4

that owns the Hyatt hotel chain. But this is the second time

1:29.9

since 2021 that Texas Democrats have fled the state. Back then, they did it for an elections bill.

1:36.6

And now they're doing it to try to avoid mid-cycle redistricting. Jake, this was all precipitated by

1:43.1

President Donald Trump when he decided to wait into this

1:46.7

and force Texas Governor Greg Abbott to do this redistricting in order to help Republicans in the midterms.

1:53.7

Has Trump sort of bitten off more than he can chew here?

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