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On the Media

August 11, 2001

On the Media

WNYC Studios

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🗓️ 5 May 2011

⏱️ 53 minutes

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0:00.0

From WNYC in New York, this is On the Media. I'm Bob Garfield.

0:21.6

And I'm Brooke Gladstone. Currently in the nation's capital, there is an argument brewing over a measure that would give the government sweeping authority to prosecute anyone who told its secrets.

0:32.6

It began last fall when officials in the CIA and the FBI quietly worked a provision into the Intelligence

0:38.8

Authorization Act that would make it a felony for federal employees to disclose classified

0:44.3

information. Ultimately, but not without a fight, it was vetoed by President Clinton. Right now,

0:50.9

free press advocates are battling it out with the intelligence community

0:54.3

to stave off hearings on a similar measure.

0:57.3

A few weeks ago on our program, Daniel Ellsberg said such a measure would have made the publication of the Pentagon Papers impossible.

1:05.3

He also said that the intelligence agencies have aimed the measure at a particular reporter and newspaper.

1:11.6

If that is signed, then there will be a number of prosecutions.

1:15.6

There won't be just two. There'll be two in the next month, probably.

1:19.6

They already have their eyes, I think, on the Washington Times, for example.

1:23.6

The act is almost dedicated to getting them.

1:26.6

Daniel Ellsberg, probably the most famous leaker in U.S. history, said the anti-leak provision was meant to get the Washington Times.

1:34.6

Of course, what he told us later is that it was actually meant to get Bill Goertz,

1:38.8

who reports on national security issues for the Washington Times.

1:42.4

Bill Goerts, is that true?

1:43.7

Well, that's what I've heard.

1:45.0

It's been called the anti-Gertz leak statute, and I was surprised that it was, in fact,

1:52.4

vetoed by the president last year. Have you ever felt like you were compromising national security?

1:58.2

I don't feel that way at all. There have been cases where we have withheld information

2:04.0

or modified information at the request of the government, and there have been cases where we've

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