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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

So after what, four years from the first time he appeared on the Paracast, we have Thomas Morrison joining us.

He is gifted to be a paranormal adept in the Paracast forums because of his great contributions.

And one of the most important things he ever did for the forum was participating in a thread called UFO design, where he gets dark and

dirty into how those UFOs fly around.

And I was thinking here, in light of the current interest in the subject with the Pentagon

UAP task force, and people now looking at its maneuverability,

these UFOs or UAPs or flying saucers, maybe we should bring Thomas back on and have him take a look

and put it through his lens and see what he sees. Thomas, have you been following the current chatter?

You know, it's hard not to. I mean, after a lifetime of being engaged in the subject and,

you know, waiting a year or two for any new development or new story to break, here we are

four years after our last paracast discussion. And it's hard to keep a full-time job and keep up with all the

developments in this story. It's almost every day. There's some kind of story or news segment or

something. It's really thrilling time. I love it. And it's funny because the last time we talked on

the roundtable debate about the ETH, which I favor.

That was about a week before, I think, the New York Times story broke.

And this whole subject has really had afterburners on ever since.

Well, at this point, do you think it's going to lead to anything,

or is it just going to be people talking and nothing new is learned?

Okay, so I do my best to stay away from any kind of prognosticating, but I think that what we

have seen has been really unprecedented in our lifetimes. I did not expect in our lifetimes

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