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Audrey Hoellein Part 2 of 2

DNA: ID

AbJack Entertainment

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Episode 180 Audrey Hoellein Part 2 of 2

This is part 2,; the conclusion of the Audrey Hoellein case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that part first.

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0:00.0

Detective Dustin Gautschall was assigned the Hayline case in October 2018, right after the Vancouver PD received the report from Parabon Nanolabs, identifying Richard Kaye as a person of interest.

0:12.9

Detective Gautchall reviewed the reports of former Major Crimes Unit Detective Barbara Nopal and verified that the suspect's name was not in the case file.

0:22.0

He noted that Richard Kay had three addresses of record in Vancouver in the 1990s, all that were very close to Audrey's

0:27.6

apartment. He lived at 3207-124th Avenue, 3.4 miles away. He lived at 3411 Grant Street, 4.8

0:36.2

miles away, and he lived at 2011 Brant Road, two miles away.

0:41.8

Furthermore, Richard's physical characteristics were consistent with the paraben phenotype,

0:45.9

with light brown hair, hazel eyes, and fair skin. He stood 6'3 and 200 pounds.

0:51.8

Finally, Richard Kaye had a rape three conviction in Clark County in 1986.

0:58.1

It was time to get Richard's DNA. Detective Galchell learned that Richard Kay was living in Fairview,

1:04.9

Oregon and working the night shift at PDX Arrowcheck cargo security on Air Cargo Road.

1:10.4

They set up surveillance teams to start watching

1:12.4

Richard after checking out his DMV photo and his social media. They noted that he smoked continually

1:17.6

and he was the only employee they ever saw smoking. However, he smoked mostly when he was sitting in his

1:22.4

truck and he didn't throw the butts out the window. They watched him for months without being able

1:26.6

to obtain any abandoned

1:27.7

DNA. Attempts to swab the door handle of his vehicle didn't yield workable DNA either. Finally,

1:33.8

they implemented Operation Fishnet. The title was especially clever because not only were they, of course,

1:38.9

attempting to snare Richard K. in their net, but they literally used a fish net. Here's what happened.

1:45.9

Detective Godshaw,

1:50.5

watching Richard's workplace from an unmarked vehicle, saw him standing outside at the smoking door with three other employees taking a break. He was the only one smoking. He watched Richard

1:55.7

from about 50 feet away as Richard sucked down two cancer sticks and put both butts into a metal coffee can, which

2:01.9

was sitting on the stairway outside the building. The coffee can was filled with rainwater,

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