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Audio long read: Many people have no mental imagery. What’s going on in their brains?

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🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 18 minutes

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This is an audio version of our Feature: Many people have no mental imagery. What’s going on in their brains?



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0:00.0

This is an audio long read from nature. In this episode, many people have no mental imagery.

0:09.1

What's going on in their brains? Written by Elizabeth Quill and read by me, Benjamin Thompson.

0:17.8

Think about your breakfast this morning.

0:27.0

Can you imagine the pattern on your coffee mug, the sheen of the jam on your half-eaten toast?

0:31.4

Most of us can call up such pictures in our minds.

0:35.1

We can visualize the past and summon images of the future.

0:41.4

But for an estimated 4% of people, this mental imagery is weak or absent. When researchers ask them to imagine something familiar, they might have a concept of what it is,

0:48.5

and words and associations might come to mind, but they describe their mind's eye as dark or even blank.

0:57.0

Systems neuroscientist Max Shine at the University of Sydney, Australia, first realized

1:02.8

that his mental experience differed in this way in 2013. He and his colleagues were trying to

1:09.4

understand how certain types of hallucination come about

1:12.7

and were discussing the vividness of mental imagery.

1:16.8

When I close my eyes, there's absolutely nothing there, Shine recalls, telling his colleagues.

1:22.5

They immediately asked him what he was talking about.

1:25.4

Whoa, what's going on? Shine thought. Neither he nor his

1:29.6

colleagues had realized how much variation there is in the experiences people have when they close

1:35.3

their eyes. This moment of revelation is common to many people who don't form mental images.

1:42.4

They report that they might never have thought about this aspect of

1:45.4

their inner life, if not for a chance conversation, a high school psychology class, or an article

1:52.0

they stumbled across. Although scientists have known for more than a century that mental imagery

1:57.8

varies between people, the topic received a surge of attention, when,

2:02.6

a decade ago, an influential paper coined the term Afantasia to describe the experience of people

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