Audio Edition: Epic Effort to Ground Physics in Math Opens Up the Secrets of Time
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🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 18 minutes
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By mathematically proving how individual molecules create the complex motion of fluids, three mathematicians have illuminated why time can’t flow in reverse.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Quanta Audio Edition. |
| 0:08.2 | In each of these bi-weekly episodes, we bring you a story direct from the Quanta website |
| 0:12.8 | about developments in basic science and mathematics. |
| 0:16.2 | I'm Susan Vallett. |
| 0:17.9 | Individual molecules create the complex motion of fluids. Three mathematicians now |
| 0:23.3 | have proven that mathematically. It not only advances a key mathematical problem, but |
| 0:29.3 | it also illuminates why time can't flow in reverse. That's next. |
| 0:55.8 | Quantum Magazine is an editorially independent online publication supported by the Simon's Foundation to enhance public understanding of science. |
| 1:01.3 | At the turn of the 20th century, the renowned mathematician David Hilbert had a grand ambition |
| 1:07.5 | to bring a more rigorous mathematical way of thinking into the world of physics. |
| 1:12.5 | At the time, physicists were still plagued by debates about basic definitions. What is heat? |
| 1:18.9 | How are molecules structured? Hilbert hoped that the formal logic of mathematics could provide |
| 1:24.9 | guidance. On the morning of August 8 8, 1900, he delivered a list of |
| 1:30.5 | 23 key math problems to the International Congress of Mathematicians. Number six was a big one. |
| 1:38.3 | Produce airtight proofs of the laws of physics. The scope of Hilbert's sixth problem was enormous. He asked to treat in the |
| 1:47.8 | same manner as geometry by means of axioms, those physical sciences in which mathematics plays an |
| 1:54.5 | important part. Dave Levermore, a mathematician at the University of Maryland, says Hilbert's challenge to axiomatize |
| 2:02.6 | physics was really a program. Levermore says the way the sixth problem is actually stated, |
| 2:09.1 | it's never going to be solved. But Hilbert provided a starting point. To study different |
| 2:15.9 | properties of a gas, say the speed of its molecules or its |
| 2:19.8 | average temperature, physicists use different equations. In particular, they use one set of |
| 2:26.2 | equations to describe how individual molecules in a gas move, and another to describe the behavior |
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