Audio Deepfakes and the End of Trust

Unsung Science

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🗓️ 29 October 2021

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The media is plenty freaked out about “deepfakes”: Computer-generated videos of famous people saying things they never actually said. But only the video is faked; the audio parts, the voices of those fake celebrities, were supplied by human impersonators. But now, software exists to mimic anyone’s voice, opening a Pandora’s Box of fraud, deception, and what one expert calls “the end of trust.” Fortunately, a new coalition of 60 news organizations and software companies think they have a way to shut down the nightmare before it begins.

Guests: Ragavan Thurairatnam, Dessa. Nina Schick, author and deepfakes expert. Joan Donavan, Harvard Kennedy School. Charlie Choi, CEO of Lovo. Dana Rao, chief counsel, Adobe.

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0:00.0	Deepfakes are the latest in computer-generated imagery.
0:08.9	They're videos of people doing and saying things that they never actually did or said.
0:14.3	Like there's a video of Obama saying,
0:16.5	President Trump is the total and complete dipshoot.
0:19.6	But what's weird is that the voices in those videos are still done by human beings,
0:25.2	impressionists, impersonators.
0:27.7	The technology to simulate their voices was never good enough to fool anyone.
0:32.7	Until now, I'm David Pope and this is Unsung Science.
0:57.7	For two decades FBI agent Robert Hansen sold secrets to the Kremlin.
1:18.7	He violated everything that my FBI stood for.
1:21.9	Hansen was the most damaging spy in FBI history and his betrayals didn't end there.
1:26.7	Do I hate him? No, I don't hate anyone, but his motive.
1:30.7	I would love to know what his two motives so I can get that out of me.
1:34.7	How did he do it? Why?
1:36.7	Follow agent of betrayal to double life of Robert Hansen wherever you get your podcast.
1:40.7	You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app.
1:45.7	Season one, episode three, voice deepfakes.
1:51.7	Every fall, Adobe hosts a conference called Adobe Max.
1:55.7	It's a chance for the engineers to strut their stuff, show what they've been working on,
1:59.7	and make announcements to a captive audience of customers and press.
2:03.7	The conference focuses, of course, on creative software for photos, videos, music, and so on.
2:09.7	Because that's Adobe's thing, right?
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