Hello and welcome to Slate's Audio Book Club, the late autumn edition.

I'm Megan O'Rourke, your host and a culture critic for Slate.

And joining me today are book club regulars Katie Roifie, a professor at NYU and author of Uncommon Arrangements, among other books,

and Troy Patterson, Slate's Eminent TV critic.

Welcome to both of you.

Eminent is a very nice thing.

So welcome to you.

We are going to jump into our book club in a moment,

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Today, we are doing something a little bit different than

usual. We are talking about Raymond Carver, but we're actually going to compare two versions of a

short story by Carver. As some of our listeners may know already, Carver during his career,

had a very, what turned out to be a controversial relationship with his editor, Gordon Lish, who was first his editor at Esquire magazine and later his book editor.

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