Atul Gawande on Priorities, Big and Small

Conversations with Tyler

Society & Culture, Education

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🗓️ 19 July 2017

⏱️ 58 minutes

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The surgeon, researcher, and celebrated writer joined Tyler for a conversation on why Watson will never diagnose your illness, what George Church’s narcolepsy teaches us about CRISPR, what’s missing in medical education, Michael Crichton’s cultural influence, Knausgård versus Ferrante, indie music, and the thing that makes Gawande “bawl like a baby.”

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Recorded June 12th, 2017

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0:26.4	I'm here up in Boston with the Tool Goande, and we're going to talk about health, health
0:31.2	care, health care policy, and a Tool Goande himself.
0:35.3	So let me start with a question about artificial intelligence.
0:38.6	How far are we from having an AI that is capable of actually doing diagnosis to people?
0:44.2	That is, they might speak into a Skype connection, something like Watson would hear what they
0:48.2	say, and they would then diagnose the person well enough that this would be a usable
0:52.3	form of health care.
0:53.6	That far, close, massively far.
0:56.1	I think it's one of the hardest things.
0:58.9	You want me to tell why?
1:00.8	Tell us why, yes.
1:01.8	Okay.
1:02.8	So, the diagnosis process, people imagine what it is is that people come to you with a
1:07.1	crisply defined problem.
1:09.1	I have symptom one, two, three.
1:12.4	I have data and to add to it, and now give me the answer.
1:19.1	And the reality is, first of all, people come to you often unable to explain what their
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