Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Police Off the Cuff.

Real Crime Stories.

We're covering the case of the documentary of the Gilgo Beach serial killer.

And if you haven't watched it, it's on Peacock, it's pay-per-view.

It's quite interesting.

And no one was involved more in this case from the early times of this case than attorney

John Ray, a flamboyant attorney who kept this case alive.

I don't agree with everything he says, but he kept this case

alive. He represented Shannon Gilbert, who incidentally her case was never included in the Gilgo

Beach serial killings because the Suffolk County District Attorney did not determine that case to be a homicide.

However, Mr. John Ray, who you see up on the screen, flamboyant attorney, good guy, we had him on the show, I'll talk about him.

I don't agree with everything he says. But he was bothered a little bit by this

peacock documentary because he has appeared numerous times on numerous TV shows. He's one of

those guys you say, he never met a camera. He didn't like. He loves the attention. Anyway,

he always felt and has given several press conferences in regards to

the involvement of Asa Elrop and her daughter, Victoria. So not involvement in the way that

they fully knew about these murders, and they fully understood that their father in this case and

in Asa Elrop's case, her husband was the Gilgo beat serial killer. But yet in this documentary,

you would have Asa Elroop, you'd believe that she's still madly in love with Rex Ullman.

But there's so many signs in this case of dysfunction to the average viewer that we can't really buy it.

But anyway, we're going to take a look at John Ray today.

And he appeared on Banfield. He spoke about this case and he feels that

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