He was leaking and sabotaging Trump two years ago, and now we're supposed to trust him as this sort of this aboveboard neutral whistleblower.

The whole thing would have just fallen apart, which is why they covered it up and covered up his name.

We're going to bring on an investigative journalist who's been right about this story for the last seven years.

He's the author of Swift Boating America, Hans Monkey.

Hans, good to see you. Thanks for joining the show. Thanks for having me.

Okay. Talk to me about these documents that Tulsi Gabbard released. I mean, I do find it to be

very vindicating that you and Sean Davis and Paul Sperry and all of the Molly Hemingway and all of these

excellent investigative journalists were basically right about this from day one,

including the names of the people involved here.

But what stuck out to you the most about Tulsi Gabbard's document release?

What stuck out to me the most is the extent of the conflicts that this so-called

whistleblower, Eric Ciarmella, had at the time, and which were known at the time to

the inspector general.

And the inspector general, instead of just shutting it off at that point, because we can get

into some details here in a moment in terms of what all those conflicts were or are, but instead

of shutting it down and saying, look, this is a clown show, go away. He elevated the whole thing.

He broke his own rules to make it happen in terms of making the impeachment happen.

So it's sort of a combination of

absolute total corruption in the sense of the conflicts of interest of the so-called whistleblower

and then perhaps even worse corruption on the part of the guy who is employed to be the sort

of gatekeeper, the inspector general who then-

Michael Atkinson.

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