Welcome to another episode of Lurie Breaks It Down, a podcast where we dig deeply to connect the dots on the issues that shape our world.

I'm Lurie Daniel Favors, author, activist, attorney, and host of the LaReyreis-Daniel Favors show on Sirius XM's Urban View, Channel 126, if you like what you're about to hear, give us five stars and tell everybody that you know, and if you didn't like what you heard, then just keep it to yourself and, you know, as the saints say, pray our strength. Also remember to check out my YouTube page, the Reid Daniel Favor's Media, subscribe, like, and share, so you get notified when I post videos for my show and go live with my YouTube audience. Now, here is today's latest and greatest breakdownable news. And I brought in some reinforcements today because I know enough about immigration law to know that it is

not in a good place right now, but I don't know nearly enough as this man. He is Alan Orr,

immigration attorney, and former president of one of the most premier immigration law associations

in the country right now. Alan Orr, it's always a pleasure to have you on. Usually you're on

my show, but I'm

really grateful for you joining us for the first time on the podcast today. Welcome.

Happy to be here trying to reach people where we can find them. Well, you're doing a good job of

that. And apparently you are able to find people a whole lot easier than this administration

is because we saw how the Supreme Court instructed the Trump administration to stop what they were doing and to return folks like Kilmar Abrago Garcia, who is an immigrant, who was technically deported wrongfully.

I would suggest. I think you would as well.

But we are realizing right now that our immigration policy is one that, frankly, is in a shambles.

And it's being fashioned in such a way

that if you are a white South Africaner, you're going to get entry and private plane chartered jets

into the country. But if you're a black or brown person who actually followed the asylum system,

applied for asylum, and then got even perhaps in the Kilmar-Abrigo-Garcia situation, had an interview,

had a hearing during the first Trump administration, did what you were supposed to do thereafter,

and now he's somewhere rotting in a prison in El Salvador.

Alan, this is a really troubling situation when we think about what's happening with immigrants right now.

Talk to us about what we the people need to know. I think the first thing that we need to know is that to understand that right

now, the due process conversation that's happening around immigration is not about immigration.

It's about everybody's right to a day in court and the Constitution. So that's the first thing

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