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Filmmaker and author Jack Kelly and director of the Atlantis puzzle is with us,

and we're talking about newly retranslated Greek texts from Plato

that suggest Atlantis may never have sunk beneath the ocean at all,

but instead vanished beneath time, climate change, and most importantly, centuries of

mistranslation. Jack, you were explaining sort of how this story came down to Plato of Atlantis,

and these three individuals sitting around trying to regale Socrates about Atlantis.

So just carry on. What did they tell Socrates about this empire, this bloodthirsty empire, I think

you call them,

that actually attacked Athens in much of the Greek world centuries before.

Right.

So this is a mysterious, mysterious story. And when we get, we end the Tamea story,

which is most of the text is this kind of philosophical text about the origin and nature of the universe and how human beings came to be in it and so forth.

And you say, well, what's that have to do with Atlantis?

So then that book ends and boom, now here we are in the book called Critias.

And this is where the character Critias comes back.

He's jogged his memory and he's got this story to tell that he heard long ago.

And the origin of the story about this sort of prehistoric war that took place around 9600 BC between the hostile

Atlantean empire and the good guys, you know, the sort of proto-Athenian people and this Greek coalition

that pushed these bad guys back and drove them all the way back to their capital city,

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