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Joining us now on the program.

We have talked to him before.

He is, without question, the gold standard when it comes to athletic training, the knowledge thereof,

in all forms of athletics.

As I mentioned, he has overseen the athletic

training or the medical staffs in planning for 35, if not more, different major sporting

events that have come through Indianapolis. Ralph Reef joining us from Reef Executive Performance Solutions.

And I wanted to talk to you, Ralph, about a number of different injuries, just because

this is the time of year where you start hearing them.

And sometimes you start hearing about injuries that people are not as familiar with.

I'm going to get to Tyrese Halliburton as well, but I want to begin with this one.

Joe Burrow is now going to be out a month with turf toe.

And I remember Marshall Falk had turf toe at some point when he was here.

And I always just assumed turf toe is like when you get up in the middle of the night to get a glass of water and you, you know, you stub your toe on the, the footrest that you didn't realize was there.

But what exactly is turf toe?

Yeah, well, it's great to be with you, Jake.

And, yeah, that middle of the night stubbing the toe is where you're basically jamming

bone surface against bone service.

So it's sort of a straight line impact.

Turf toe, you get into multiple

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