This is Free Thought Radio with co-host Stan Barker and Annie Laurie Gaylor, Irreverent Views, News, Music, and Interviews.

Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try.

No hell below us, Above us only sky Imagine all the people living for today Hello, happy April.

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor,

co-president of the Freedom from Religion Foundation.

My co-host, Dan Barker,

who's co-president with me,

is not here today because he's in Europe, the Lucky Duck. His trip includes two

panels and a piano vocal concert in Warsaw, Poland, visiting humanists and a former missionary

in Stockholm, Sweden, and talking at the conference of rationalists international in Helsinki, Finland, where he is today.

When he returns next week, he'll have a lot of exciting things to tell us.

And although Dan's not here, on the second half of Free Thought Radio, I'll be joined by FFRF

Director of Communications, Amit Paul, who will help me interview this week's guest and a little more about that in a minute.

This is the April 6th, 2023 episode of Free Thought Radio.

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for Religion Foundation in Madison, Wisconsin.

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