Atheist Bible Expert On Why God Doesn’t Exist, Wes Huff, & If Jesus Was The Real Messiah

Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh

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4.6 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 100 minutes

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YERRR – Alex O’Connor is back and we’re diving deep into Jesus, the Gospels, and the wild early days of Christianity. Was Jesus actually God? Did he have siblings? What’s up with Mormonism, Gnostic gospels, and Revelations? Alex breaks it all down. All that and more on this week’s episode of FLAGRANT. INDULGE. 0:00 Intro 00:25 Utility of religion 4:35 The Gospels 7:51 John the Baptist was real 14:48 John the Baptist’s role 20:14 Mormonism + Origins 31:29 Joseph Smith Jr. martyrdom 33:48 Expecting the Messiah + Jesus was about the action 35:27 Jesus never claimed to be God 50:36 Was Jesus worshipped? 1:00:57 Revelations is wild + Islam’s interpretation 1:06:31 Oral vs written traditions 1:10:13 The historical context + Speculation 1:12:34 John and Jesus are cousins + Preaching 1:16:41 Why did Christology arise? 1:20:19 Gospel of Judas & Thomas + Gnostics 1:27:00 Jesus had siblings + Miracle worker 1:34:36 Gospel of Thomas ending is wild 1:35:45 Wesley Huff has made blunders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	As promised, here is part two of our episode of Alex O'Connor. It's a big one. We're going to talk about Jesus and whether he even claimed to be the Messiah, and maybe it was John the Baptist. We're also going to talk about Mormons. You guys think they're weird. They might be right. Alex O'Connor is going to tell us why. And last, and probably least, but the most fun, he's going to talk shit about our boy Wes Huff. There's some Bible beef going on.
0:02.4	Let's see what's happening. and probably least, but the most fun, he's going to talk shit about our boy Wes Huff.
0:21.7	There's some Bible beef going on.
0:24.0	Let's see what's happening.
0:25.2	Religion is my real thing, yeah.
0:27.0	That's why I'm specifically asking.
0:28.4	So I'm aware that you must have had tons of conversations with people and they've broken down
0:31.7	like what they feel their personal benefit from it is.
0:35.0	Have you in your studies, like have you read any stories that warmed your heart
0:41.6	to be cliche and made you go, oh, I understand the societal utility for this?
0:47.9	And yes, there are things that hurt people and ostracize people, and that is bad, but is there like a version where you're like
0:56.2	there is a net good for the individual?
0:58.6	I had a debate the other day with a Christian who tried to kill his dad with a hammer.
1:04.5	He just like attacked his dad.
1:06.1	He's caved in his dad's skull with a hammer.
1:08.1	What?
1:08.7	Wow.
1:09.2	And now he's a Christian and he's totally fine.
1:13.2	So he's like a...
1:14.1	What was his dad doing?
1:14.9	I can't remember, but I think... I think so this guy, he's like a sociopath or a psychopath, one or the other. Like he's like an actual sociopath or psychopath. So I don't know if there was anything particular or if he just did it for, you know, good time's sake or whatever, but for some reason.
1:13.3	He like, he did that.
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