[ATBW] Episode 4 - People Who Have Consensual Affairs Don't End Up With PTSD

The Bible For Normal People

The Bible for Normal People

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.7 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 4 of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke share the story of Christa Brown, a sexual abuse survivor and advocate. Her experience reflects the broader issue of clergy abuse, where victims are often silenced and blamed, while abusers are protected and transferred to new congregations. The episode also highlights Pooler’s research on the harmful psychological impacts of clergy sexual abuse, including PTSD rates higher than those of combat veterans, and the Southern Baptist Convention’s (SBC) ongoing failure to protect victims. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. All the Buried Women is presented by The Bible for Normal People. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Christa Brown (Get Christa’s newest book Baptistland: A Memoir of Abuse, Betrayal, and Transformation!), David Pooler, Robert Downen, Rosalie Beck, Meredith Stone, and Barry Hankins Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor’s Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	We want to make sure that you, the listener, have a trigger warning for this episode, as it does talk about sex abuse.
0:07.3	Because of the serious nature of this episode, we've chosen to place the ad from our sponsor at the beginning rather than the middle.
0:14.3	That way, once we enter the story, we can stay in it without interruption.
0:20.6	Here's a quick advertisement from our sponsor, Brazos Press.
0:25.0	How did the role of the pastor's wife come to be?
0:28.2	In becoming the pastor's wife, how marriage replaced ordination as a woman's path to ministry,
0:33.9	Beth Allison Barr takes you on a journey, revealing little-known stories of women throughout church history.
0:40.6	Drawing from her 25 years of personal experience as a pastor's wife and her expertise as a historian,
0:47.5	Barr explores how the role of the pastor's wife has evolved and grown over time.
0:53.1	She uncovers the surprising history of women's ordination
0:56.1	and how its decline intersects with the rise of the pastor's wife. Through personal
1:01.6	anecdotes and historical analysis, Barr helps the church understand the origins and implications
1:07.6	of this unique role. Pete N's host of the Bible for Normal People, endorse the book,
1:14.0	calling it, quote, an amazing book that exposes the gray's disenfranchisement of women to the gospel ministry
1:20.8	and sets the record straight for all to see.
1:24.6	Published by Brazos Press, you can order Becoming the Pastor's Wife Now,
1:28.8	wherever books, e-books, or audiobooks are sold. As a thanks for listening to the podcast,
1:33.9	we've got a promo code for you. Use the code Podcast 40 to get 40% off of becoming the
1:40.2	pastor's wife. This is valid once the book releases until April 30th. You can check out our
1:46.0	show notes for more information. Right now, in the Southern Baptist Convention's archives,
1:52.7	there is a cardboard box labeled 137. In that box, there is a little white folder with a
2:00.5	handwritten title, Sex, Clergy, Sexual Abuse.
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