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The Bible For Normal People

[ATBW] Episode 1 - George Orwell Warned Us About 1984

The Bible For Normal People

The Bible for Normal People

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.7 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In the debut episode of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke aim to uncover women’s stories hidden in the Southern Baptist Convention’s archives. The story begins in an unexpected place for a podcast about Southern Baptists: 4th-century Rome with Saint Fabiola. Because Fabiola challenged religious and societal norms, her story has become a safe harbor for women with similar experiences… even women in the SBC. Fast forward to 1984, where a pivotal moment in Kansas City, Missouri, changed the trajectory of women’s roles in the Southern Baptist Convention. There’s a reason Orwell warned us about 1984. Listen to Episode 1 to find out more. We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back. Credits: Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Producer: Savannah Locke Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Jemar Tisby, Pamela Durso, Barry Hankins, and Meredith Stone Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters. Social Media Links: Follow us on Instagram: @alltheburiedwomen @bethallisonbarr @savannah_locke @thebiblefornormalpeople Subscribe to Beth's Substack: https://bethallisonbarr.substack.com Subscribe to Savannah's Substack: https://savannahlocke.substack.com Promo Code: Use code PODCAST40 to get 40% off Becoming the Pastor’s Wife until April 30th through Baker Publishing Group's Website: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/becoming-the-pastor-s-wife/414910 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

St. Fabiola was born in the mid-fourth century to a wealthy Roman family. We don't know

0:10.0

much about her, but most of what we do know comes from a surprisingly famous source, St. Jerome.

0:16.6

That's right, the Jerome, church father, theologian, and priest who was commissioned to translate the Bible to Latin.

0:24.4

Here's what we know about Fabiola.

0:27.2

She married young and eventually divorced her husband, who, according to Jerome, had fallen so terrible, quote,

0:34.4

not even a prostitute or a common slave could have put up with them.

0:39.5

She married a second time, violating church ordinances, which prohibited someone from getting

0:45.5

remarried if their first spouse was still alive. This was a pretty big deal, but Jerome's

0:52.6

opinion fluctuated on the severity of her second marriage.

0:56.8

At one point, he wrote that it was a bad thing, but may have been done out of necessity because

1:03.3

it was better, as, quote, the apostle tells us to marry than to burn.

1:09.0

Later, he wrote that Fabiola didn't realize what she was doing,

1:13.1

and that she had unwittingly exposed herself to a wound from the devil.

1:18.8

Either way, when Fabiola's second husband died, she repented for getting remarried,

1:24.6

and devoted herself to a life of renunciation.

1:30.6

Jerome praised her for this and wrote, quote,

1:36.4

who would believe that at a time when most widows having shaken off the yoke of servitude grow careless and allow themselves more liberty than ever,

1:40.1

frequenting the baths, splitting through the streets,

1:42.5

showing their harlot faces everywhere,

1:44.7

that at this time Fabiola came to herself. Her repentance was a public ordeal and took place

1:52.5

the day before Easter. Jerome describes it in a dramatic fashion, saying, quote, she stood in the

1:58.7

ranks of the penitence and exposed before bishop, presbyters,

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