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ATBS - The SBC Is Still Failing Survivors

Bodies Behind The Bus

Bodies Behind The Bus

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Documentary, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Mental Health

4.2 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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In this episode, Jay and Johnna debrief the 2025 Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting. They discuss why Johnna chose to attend alone, the deaths of two high-profile survivors—Jennifer Lyell and Duane Rollins—and the emotional and physical toll survivor advocacy has taken. They reflect on the SBC’s failure to follow through on promised reforms, the lack of accountability, and the ongoing harm caused by the institution’s refusal to meaningfully address abuse. The episode also explores the...

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0:50.7

Yes, welcome back to the podcast.

0:53.4

Today is a very special interview where I talked to

0:56.2

Jana about her journeys into the SBC world. I personally had a lot of questions. I actually

1:05.0

didn't know she was going until I saw a picture and I was like, are you actually there by yourself?

1:10.2

And that's how the conversation started. Okay, clear that up, though. He did know I was going. Oh, yeah, I knew you were going. Because I texted him. Yes, yes. I didn't know you were by yourself. Yes. I was by yourself. So that's right. I did know that. I did know you were going. And then I saw a picture and you're by yourself. I was like, why is she by herself? So. And then my introverted heart like dropped. And I was like, I don't know what I would do by myself run away. So. Yeah. All right. So I want to start. when did you get the invite to attend the Southern Banffat Convention?

1:48.2

Who sent it?

1:49.2

I got this calligraphied, beautiful, engraved invite.

1:54.0

No, I was not invited.

1:56.4

Shocker, really?

1:57.2

To attend this SBC annual meeting, nor was I personally, I don't think either of us, Bodies

2:03.3

behind the bus was not planning on really diving into the SBC annual meeting this year.

2:09.3

In large part, because abuse reform has pretty much been called dead.

2:14.1

Survivors that have been speaking out and working towards reform there have continually been let down.

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