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The Bunker

At War in the Information Battlespace

The Bunker

Podmasters

News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Digital disinformation from hostile powers is attacking our democracies, but do our politicians even want to stop it? Disinformation expert, security specialist and former US intelligence officer MATTHEW FERRARO talks to Nina Schick about the evolving threat of information pollution, who’s next on the fakers’ hitlists, and why Russia hates 5G. “To fight back against Russian propaganda, you need to think like a spy” Presented by Nina Schick. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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look after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to the bunker daily with me Nina Shake. As regular listeners know I am very interested in

1:14.8

digital disinformation, fakery and information warfare. I've just published a book

1:19.5

Deep Fakes and the Focalyps on this subject. Disinformation is the key battleground of the 21st century.

1:26.2

Russia is using it to devalue and discredit the Democratic Revolution in Belarus.

1:31.3

And with the US presidential election coming soon there is little

1:34.4

sign that the American authorities have taken much meaningful action to prevent an

1:38.5

assault on their electoral democracy from Russia, China, and other malignant actors. In the age of information,

1:45.0

disinformation extends far beyond politics affecting every business and

1:49.6

private citizen too. My guest today is equally concerned about

1:55.1

information pollution and the distortion of democracy. Matthew Ferraro is a

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