Well, here we are friends in Kristen Hange's apartment in New York City.

And I have all sorts of questions for Kristen because of

the least in conversations we've had.

I was like, oh, that's a Robcast episode.

And you, I have a podcast called Let's Play, the Create Podcast.

And we were having a conversation and you said it's all about playing.

And I said, I want to record this conversation.

You were saying so many things that felt like the inside of my spirit.

I felt like something deep inside of me was being addressed from your soul.

And I was like, this is so good.

I feel like someone should hear this.

And I had been asking those questions about you when doing the past month.

And I was thinking, oh, I think people would find this fascinating because it was about

your particular work.

But once again, everything's about everything.

Right.

It was about that.

So for all of you listening, so we decided to combine them and

interview each other and then release it to both of our perspective worlds of friends.

Who probably all know each other anyway.

I know.

Okay, so here's my question.

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