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🗓️ 8 January 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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On this fan favorite episode of "At The Money", Barry speaks with Cass Sunstein, professor at Harvard Law School and co-author of the book, “Algorithmic Harm: Protecting People in the Age of Artificial Intelligence”. Previously he co-authored “Nudge” with Nobel Laureate Dick Thaler.
They discuss whether all this algorithmic impact is helping or harming people.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Hannah Frye, and as we rely more and more on artificial intelligence in every facet of our lives and businesses, |
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| 0:50.0 | Podcasts Radio News. |
| 1:10.6 | So, go, no. Podcasts Radio News. Algorithms are everywhere. |
| 1:14.0 | They determine the price you pay for your Uber, what gets fed to you on TikTok and |
| 1:19.6 | Instagram, and even the prices you pay in the supermarket. |
| 1:25.1 | Is all of this algorithmic impact helping or harming people? |
| 1:30.4 | To answer that question, let's bring in Cass Sunstein. |
| 1:34.1 | He is the author of a new book, |
| 1:36.3 | Algorithmic Harm, Protecting People in the Age of Artificial Intelligence, |
| 1:41.1 | co-written with Orrin Bargill. |
| 1:43.6 | Cass is also a professor at Harvard Law School and is perhaps best known for his books on Star Wars |
| 1:51.5 | and co-authoring Nudge with Nobel laureate, Dick Thaler. |
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