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🗓️ 14 January 2026
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Do fundamentals or narratives drive market valuations? That is the question so many are wrestling with in today’s 24/7 algo-based platforms and AI-driven mediascape.
Perth Tolle is the founder of the Life and Liberty indexes and the creator of the Freedom 100 EM Index (symbol FRDM). She was named one of 10 to watch in 2020 by Wealth Management Magazine and one of the 100 people transforming Business by Business Insider in 2021.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Hannah Frye, and as we rely more and more on artificial intelligence in every facet of our lives and businesses, |
| 0:07.7 | I'm on a mission to find out how we can build the internet that AI needs. |
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| 0:23.6 | There are many problematic countries on the world stage. |
| 0:33.3 | Not only are their political behaviors bad, but they're also unhealthy for your investment dollars. |
| 0:40.8 | Most emerging market indexes, however, invest broadly across all of these countries, |
| 0:47.4 | regardless of their political activity. |
| 0:50.7 | If only there was a way to avoid authoritarian regimes, dictators, and other bad actors that |
| 0:57.9 | destroy your investing capital. |
| 1:00.8 | As it turns out, there's a fund to do just that, investing in emerging markets without |
| 1:08.1 | steering money to the worst countries on the planet. I'm Barry Ritheltz, |
| 1:12.6 | and on today's edition of At the Money, we're going to discuss how to avoid those countries |
| 1:18.3 | that are dangerous to your wealth. To help us unpack all of this and what it means for your |
| 1:23.9 | portfolio, let's bring in Perth Toll. She is the founder of the Life and Liberty Indexes and the creator of the Freedom 100 |
| 1:32.5 | EM Index, ETF symbol FRDM. |
| 1:37.5 | She was named one of 10 to Watch in 2020 by Wealth Management magazine and one of the |
| 1:43.1 | 100 people transforming business by Business Insider in 2021. |
| 1:49.1 | Her Freedom 100 EM Index ETF now manages over $2 billion and has beaten the S&P 500 over 1, 2 and three years. In 2025, Freedom was up 67 percent versus the S&P 500 |
| 2:07.7 | up almost 18 percent. So Perth, let's just start with the basic concept. Why screen emerging |
| 2:15.6 | market companies for a concept like freedom? |
| 2:19.1 | How does screening out dictators, authoritarians, and other bad actors impact market performance? |
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